From rebull@ipac.caltech.edu Thu Sep 6 14:53:22 2012 Subject: for discussion in a little while hi guys - We have several important things to discuss in a little while. Big items: - Travel logistics. May do this first. Debbie requested this last week. - AAS abstract deadline Oct 1 - coming up FAST. need two posters, one on sci, and one on edu. Who is leading each? Who will take first pass at each of the abstract drafts? When should we expect a first draft? - Schedules and planning for next 3.5 months. We need to accomplish the following tasks, before, well, Thanksgiving to give us a chance to write the poster: 1) Image inspection and weeding 2) SED construction and weeding 3) addition of optical points to database 4) addition of spitzer points to database 5) reassessment of SEDs, color-mag and color-color diag, and subsequent re-weeding. 6) position-based search of SIMBAD to see if we have rediscovered known galaxies. These need not be accomplished serially; we can work on some of these in parallel. but here are some notes in serial order: WRT 1 - I looked at the google spreadsheet. There are still a LOT of image assessments missing. Please come to the telecon prepare to tell us where you are in this process and when you expect to be done, or what bottlenecks you're encountering because we can help. This is taking a long time, which I expected (especially given that it ran headlong into the start of the school year), but it's time to move on to the next steps, because we have a LOT to do. WRT 2 - We have talked a bit about this already. I made (automatically, blindly) a bunch of SEDs and put them on the web here: http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/rebull/working/pages/ but just for the things we are likely to care about. a) One of the big skills that I want you to have when we are done here is to know how to make your own SED. Can you do this? Everyone could, I think, at the summer visit. Can you do it again now? b) For assessing lots of objects, obviously making the SEDs automatically is desirable. Do you want to figure out how to do this with Excel, or just rely on my SEDs to push through to the end? c) We will need to reassemble the list of "things we care about" and parcel out the list of SEDs (again) for inspection. We will have to collect comments again, so I will either make another tab to the Google Doc to collect responses, or another 3 columns. Preferences? WRT 3 - JD, what is the status of the PanSTAARS data? Or should we just count on the bird-in-the-hand of the data you got for us last time? WRT 4 - This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE task. This is why I wanted to make sure we did as much weeding as we could before getting to the Spitzer images. There is a way to pass a list of coordinates to APT (rather than doing them one-at-a-time), which basically I do recommend, but there are 4 IRAC bands and at least 1 MIPS band, with weird footprints all over our region, so there are still a LOT of things to do, screw up, and do again. And we will still want to LOOK at each one of the objects in at least one IRAC band to see if the object is detected or missing, weirdly shaped, contaminated by nebulosity, etc etc. Given how long the WISE/2MASS/POSS inspection has taken, my guess is that this potentially could take at least a month. I would really like to get moving on this sooner rather than later. WRT 5 - this will go faster the second time around, but we still need to add the new points to the SEDs, look at the newly modified SEDs, make more color-color and color-mag diagrams, and make a judgement as to whether or not the new data help or hurt the case for being a YSO. WRT 6 - we can pass a list of coordinates to simbad, and then just weed the results. this should not be a time-intensive task. So, we need to reassess our schedule that we set up during the last day of the visit and/or some sort of task allocation and/or task leader assignment, something... talk to you in a bit. Dr. Luisa Rebull Research Scientist, Spitzer Science Center Caltech M/S 220-6 voice 626-395-4565 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125