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| JCMT (CO) observations. both 27 and 34 in here. 22 arcsec resolution! (see [[Resolution]] and their fig 2 here.) Likely last of his thesis, or first of his postdoc. (Look, his address changed, so this was published while he was a postdoc, but it's the same collaborators as before at his old institution, so my guess it's leftover thesis work.) They think 27 has been triggered, 34 not; this provides a nice compare-and-contrast opportunity for our write-up. Quick read. | | JCMT (CO) observations. both 27 and 34 in here. 22 arcsec resolution! (see [[Resolution]] and their fig 2 here.) Likely last of his thesis, or first of his postdoc. (Look, his address changed, so this was published while he was a postdoc, but it's the same collaborators as before at his old institution, so my guess it's leftover thesis work.) They think 27 has been triggered, 34 not; this provides a nice compare-and-contrast opportunity for our write-up. Quick read. | ||
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|BRC 27. ROSAT+VRI data. relevant issues: using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see [[Finding cluster members]]), spatial resolution (see [[Resolution]]). Mentions Chandra, XMM data, both of which would cover BRC 27, but I can't find the subsequent analysis that they advertise. We need to include this catalog in what we accumulate, and compare our results to theirs. Not clear if we need to actually discuss it or not. | |BRC 27. ROSAT+VRI data. relevant issues: using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see [[Finding cluster members]]), spatial resolution (see [[Resolution]]). Mentions Chandra, XMM data, both of which would cover BRC 27, but I can't find the subsequent analysis that they advertise. We need to include this catalog in what we accumulate, and compare our results to theirs. Not clear if we need to actually discuss it or not. | ||
+ | |need someone to scavenge data, maybe not discuss? | ||
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+ | |Shevchenko V. S., Ezhkova O. V., Ibrahimov M. A., van den Ancker M. E., Tjin A, Djie H. R. E., [http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1999MNRAS.310..210S 1999, MNRAS, 310, 210.] | ||
+ | |''Optical catalog that includes both BRC 27 and BRC 34; contains general info on BRCs'' | ||
+ | |BRC 27 only. optical. age, distance estimate. photo'''electric''' UBVR(!) and objective prism spectroscopy for Halpha and spectral types. combined with IRAS. using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see [[Finding cluster members]]). We need to include this catalog in what we accumulate, and compare our results to theirs. This is not necessarily a trivial task, as they have photographic 1950 coordinates, which will need to be precessed and then matched to a 2mass source to get a more recent position estimate (they have finding charts, which should help), but it only needs to be done for the objects in our field of view (our data). Not clear if we need to actually discuss it or not. It's old methodology (from an Uzbecki telescope), but good stuff, especially the spectral types. nice "put-it-in-context" discussion at the top for the entire CMa R1 region. | ||
|need someone to scavenge data, maybe not discuss? | |need someone to scavenge data, maybe not discuss? | ||
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Revision as of 18:59, 29 March 2011
Big Picture
We need to come up with a short list of papers to read in detail and discuss. We'll rotate through our short list of papers, and each of you will get one to present to the group. This is modelling a so-called "journal club", a common occurrence in astronomy departments/groups/centers, where the papers are usually selected out of recent astro-ph mailings.
Papers to discuss
Type in your paper suggestions here....
Luisa nominates - either this one (IC2118, from my original teacher team), or the one I am in the process of finishing writing on CG4 from my team last year. The reason for this is because the analysis we will do for our BRCs is very similar to the analysis we did for IC2118 or CG4.
Chelen's nominees - reading the IC2118 and/or the CG4 paper would be good ways to learn the analysis procedure we're going to use/modify/manipulate. I also think a couple of papers on BRCs would be helpful for background information. Here's the bibliography from our proposal (with my comments) --CJohnson 09:55, 23 March 2011 (PDT)
paper | Chelen's notes | Luisa's notes | presenter/ present with |
Guieu, S., et al., 2010, ApJ, 720, 46 (pdf) | the 2118 paper (from my first teacher team).... because our work will look a lot like this | TO BE DISCUSSED 3/30, MARCELLA TO LEAD | |
Ogura K., Sugitani K., Pickles A., 2002, AJ, 123, 2597. | Optical + 2MASS; contains general info of BRCs | Most recent of the Sugitani series of four. Using Halpha to look for YSOs, following up their other work. relevant issues: using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see Finding cluster members), spatial resolution (see Resolution), caveats with finding candidates. Nice intro, summary of larger issues, discussion of results. Need to be sure that this catalog is included in our list of previously known YSOs in this region, compare our results to theirs. Finding charts helpfully included so we can match obj. ***Discuss this one. Maybe not the other Sugitanis, but if we do discuss the other Sugitanis ("Group S") then they should be combined here. | do this, possibly with rest of group S |
Sugitani K., Fukui Y., Ogura K., 1991, ApJS, 77, 59. | SFO article to which many other articles refer ... might be worth a review?? | the original SFO, origin of "BRC" terminology, numbers 1-44. covers the northern hemisphere. has nice intro/summary of what's going on in BRCs, CGs, etc. Nice approach of combining two large surveys -- POSS and IRAS; nice clear discussion of weed-down process. Second half of paper (detailed analysis of IRAS colors, etc.) obsolete but has same essence as what we do now. If we do this one, recommend review with other Sugitani, Ogura papers. | drop? else w/ group S 1991 |
Sugitani K., Ogura K., 1994, ApJS, 92, 163. | another survey | SFO/BRC catalog/nomenclature continued into the southern hemisphere. (NB: all our obj are in the N. Hem paper!). SFO/BRC numbers 45-89. Second in the Sugitani series. Again, much of detailed analysis now obsolete. If we do this one, recommend review with other Sugitani, Ogura papers. | drop? else w/ group S 1994 |
Sugitani K., Tamura M., Ogura K., 1995, ApJ, 455, L39. | IRAS survey | JHK follow-up of IRAS sources from SFO. relevant issues: using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see Finding cluster members), spatial resolution (see Resolution). Shame on them for not publishing a data table or even a figure with the locations of everything they identify as a YSO! BRC 27 is one that they choose to include in a finder chart, but doesn't do us much good. Nice summary of larger issues, timescales. Short paper. If we do this one, recommend review with other Sugitani, Ogura papers. | drop? else w/ group S 1995 |
Chauhan N, Pandey A.K., Ogura K., Ojha D.K., Bhatt B.C., Ghosh S.K., Rawat P.S., 2009, MNRAS, 396, 964. | Tests S4F theory; survey using Spitzer archival data; not deep enough?? | yes, this one we should spend some time on | |
Morgan L. K., Thompson M. A., Urquhart J. S., White G. J., Mio J., 2004, A&A, 426, 535. note has erratum too. | Radio and mid-ir survey | NRAO/NVSS/VLA (20cm), DSS, MSX data. both 27 and 34 in here, though 34 is a non-det. nice intro to the physics, though they get into far more math than we need to. relevant issues: this radio is thermal (free-free emission). they smoothed data -- spatial resolution (see Resolution). another nice use of three big surveys. sfo 27 in the online-only fig 1. T3 also online only. identifying ionizing source is not the same as identifying point sources in the images themselves. it's not clear that this is all that relevant for us. part of a PhD thesis. | Drop? if do, do with "Group M" but skip the math. 2004 |
Morgan L. K., Thompson M. A., Urquhart J. S., White G. J., 2008, A&A, 477, 557. | SCUBA survey | SCUBA submm survey (450+850 um) plus IRAS (12, 25, 60, 100 um), MSX, and 2MASS (erroneously identified as 2mm but really 2 micron). both 27 and 34 in here. next part of a PhD thesis. lots of nice overview, summary (as would be expected for a thesis) spread throughout article. seems to be a really long paper, but is almost all figures in the appendix. relevant issues: how the objects they are talking about (at long and short wavelengths) compare to what we see in our images (see Resolution and their, e.g., fig 4). Forward reference to Spitzer data analysis like ours but then says have already looked for GLIMPSE, 24 um obs. They are only looking at low-res flux densities. Appendix may be useful for scavenging additional targets if we want to do more analysis on more targets. | Probably the most worth doing of "Group M"; skip the math. 2008 |
Morgan L. K., Urquhart J. S., Thompson M. A., 2009, MNRAS, 400, 1726. | Radio, mid-ir, SCUBA observations; redefined SFO catalog | JCMT (CO) observations. both 27 and 34 in here. 22 arcsec resolution! (see Resolution and their fig 2 here.) Likely last of his thesis, or first of his postdoc. (Look, his address changed, so this was published while he was a postdoc, but it's the same collaborators as before at his old institution, so my guess it's leftover thesis work.) They think 27 has been triggered, 34 not; this provides a nice compare-and-contrast opportunity for our write-up. Quick read. | Do with "Group M" for fig 2. 2009 |
Rebull, L., et al., 2011, AJ, submitted (CG4 paper) | do as last review before we get started on ours? | do last? | |
Gregorio-Hetem J., Montmerle T., Rodrigues C. V., Marciotto E., Preibisch T., Zinnecker H., 2009, A&A, 2009, 506, 711. | X-ray survey of CMa region | BRC 27. ROSAT+VRI data. relevant issues: using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see Finding cluster members), spatial resolution (see Resolution). Mentions Chandra, XMM data, both of which would cover BRC 27, but I can't find the subsequent analysis that they advertise. We need to include this catalog in what we accumulate, and compare our results to theirs. Not clear if we need to actually discuss it or not. | need someone to scavenge data, maybe not discuss? |
Shevchenko V. S., Ezhkova O. V., Ibrahimov M. A., van den Ancker M. E., Tjin A, Djie H. R. E., 1999, MNRAS, 310, 210. | Optical catalog that includes both BRC 27 and BRC 34; contains general info on BRCs | BRC 27 only. optical. age, distance estimate. photoelectric UBVR(!) and objective prism spectroscopy for Halpha and spectral types. combined with IRAS. using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see Finding cluster members). We need to include this catalog in what we accumulate, and compare our results to theirs. This is not necessarily a trivial task, as they have photographic 1950 coordinates, which will need to be precessed and then matched to a 2mass source to get a more recent position estimate (they have finding charts, which should help), but it only needs to be done for the objects in our field of view (our data). Not clear if we need to actually discuss it or not. It's old methodology (from an Uzbecki telescope), but good stuff, especially the spectral types. nice "put-it-in-context" discussion at the top for the entire CMa R1 region. | need someone to scavenge data, maybe not discuss? |
Wiramihardja S.D., Kogure T., Nakano M., Yoshida S., 1986, PASJ, 38, 395. | Optical survey of CMa region | BRC 27. Halpha plus photographic UBV.(!) using multiple wavelengths to find YSOs (see Finding cluster members). We need to include this catalog in what we accumulate, and compare our results to theirs. This is not necessarily a trivial task, as they have photographic 1950 coordinates, which will need to be precessed and then matched to a 2mass source to get a more recent position estimate (they say they have finding charts, which should help), but it only needs to be done for the objects in our field of view (our data). Nice cross matching that they've already done for their previously identified objects. Not clear if we need to actually discuss it or not. It's a really old paper. | need someone to scavenge data, maybe not discuss? |
Soares J.B., Bica E., 2002, A&A, 388, 172. | 2MASS obs of BRC 27 | BRC 27. 2MASS. Editing ghastly. Really simple paper. In theory, we should include their results in what we accumulate, and compare our results, though (a) they are using "prehistoric" 2mass data reduction, and (b) they really make it hard, as they don't even tell us how many YSOs they think they've found, just the numbers of objects for which they've done photometry. So I don't think we really can compare our results to this one. However, nice "put it in larger context" discussion with wide-field IRAS image. | skip it unless you want to see the IRAS image. |
Soares J.B., Bica E., 2003, A&A, 404, 217. | 2MASS + optical survey | Simple paper elsewhere in the same cloud as BRC 27. Same sort of 2MASS analysis as their 2002 paper. Still archaic 2MASS data reduction. Skip it. | skip it. |
Valdettaro R., Palla F., Brand J., Cesaroni R., 2005, A&A, 443, 535. | Radio survey of water masers | 22.2 GHz (=1.35 cm if I did my math right). Really nice intro summarizing the big picture. Following up on Morgan and similar work asserting high-mass stars forming in BRCs by looking for masers. Our objects observed, not detected. Finding lots of non-detections, suggesting that low-mass stars forming instead. Nice, short writeup of basically a non-result, and I think they've gotten the interpretation spot-on. Nice to at least scan after the Morgan stuff for context. larger issues: spatial resolution (see Resolution). Again!! :) | maybe skip? |
Valdettaro R., Migenes V., Trinidad M.A., Brand J., Palla F., 2008, ApJ, 675, 1352. | VLA obs of water masers; BRC 34 | more water masers, following up 2005 work. BRC 34 observed, not detected. nice intro that puts their work in context with the rest of what they've done. Lots more non-dets, interpreted as forming low mass and/or older stars than had been assumed. I think they've gotten the interpretation spot-on. | maybe skip? |
Allen L., et al. 2011, American Astronomical Society, BAAS, 43, 258.15. | Poster from AAS ... good to review? | ok, but not a lot of content beyond the images and their 'big picture' work. | skip? |
Makovoz D., Marleau F. R., 2005, PASP, 117, 1113. | MOPEX info | VERY technical, not a manual, and not all that terribly relevant to what we're doing. let's drop this one from the list. | (drop) |
I second reading all of the bibliographic articles, plus the one on IC2118. My reasoning is that I think we should be familiar with all of the work for the references we cited, and I would like any preview of the work that we will do. The older articles I have been looking (Stromgren, 1948 & Sharpless 1959)at are interesting for their historical context, but probably not necessary for all of us to read. --Sartore 12:34, 23 March 2011 (PDT)